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Post by cat on Apr 18, 2014 17:29:46 GMT
Josiah James was married to a woman named Mary. This much we are pretty sure we know.
Some have said her maiden name was McPherson based on her son Daniel's middle name. I don't know if McPherson was just a good guess or whether there is other evidence to back it up. Others have said that her maiden name was McCann. Cynthia James death record shows her father was Josiah James and her mother was Mary McCann. The third possibility is that Josiah had more than one wife whose maiden name may have been neither McPherson or McCann. Opinions? Any one have any more information to add?
Name: Cynthia Mcgill Titles and Terms: Event Type: Death Event Date: 06 Sep 1913 Event Place: Washington, Scioto, Ohio Residence Place: Address: Gender: Female Age: 94 Marital Status: Widowed Race: white Occupation: HouseKeeper Birth Date: 15 Jan 1819 Birthplace: VA. Birth Year (Estimated): 1819 Burial Date: 08 Sep 1913 Burial Place: Portsmouth, O. Cemetery: Father's Name: Josiah James Father's Titles and Terms: Father's Birthplace: Va. Mother's Name: Mary Mccann Mother's Titles and Terms: Mother's Birthplace: VA. Spouse's Name: Spouse's Titles and Terms: File Number: fn 54734 GS Film number: 1953759 Digital Folder Number: 004021301 Image Number: 00269
Citing this Record: "Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1953," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8XC-Y24 : accessed 18 Apr 2014), Cynthia Mcgill, 06 Sep 1913; citing Washington, Scioto, Ohio, reference fn 54734; FHL microfilm 1953759.
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Post by innatejames on Apr 29, 2014 19:07:19 GMT
Sorry, I've been MIA. I have no opinions yet on your topic, Cathy, as this is a part of the tree I haven't started researching yet. It's good to know there's no evidence that we know of that Daniel's middle name was McPherson. But, it must have come from somewhere or someone, right?
Is Cynthia's death certificate the only one of Mary's children that we've found so far? If so, I would think collecting the DCs of Cynthia's siblings would be a good place to start.
It's also entirely possible that Josiah married two different women named Mary. I have Mary and Josiah marrying in Spotsylvania, Virginia in 1798. That's picked up from other Ancestry members' trees with no documentation. Is there a marriage certificate out there at least?
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Post by Frances Nally on May 22, 2014 4:27:49 GMT
My mother was Lucy James, daughter of Jesse James(not the outlaw)son of Daniel II, son of Daniel I, son of Josiah James. I too have been researching the James family for 20+ years. Another researcher years ago posted McPherson as Daniel I's middle name and no proof but keeps spreading. The death certificate of Cynthia McGill gives her others maiden name. I found the following marriage years ago in VA but have never had the time nor the knowledge to get this fact on line. References: Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy Vol. 6 Virginia.( Marriages are NOT Quakers) Bedford County VA Marriage Bonds arranged by surname. Updated March 10,2010 under the J's. Sept. 13 1800; Joseph James & Mary McCan; John McCan Surety.
Notes: Read where Josiah is a nickname for Joseph. In the Scioto County Ohio Censuses there is a Joseph James JR. That I believe to be Josiah's son.
I have many boxes of research that I have not posted online. I am very interested in being apart of this group discussion.
I have never been able to come up with parents for Josiah. I think Josiah James and family came into Ohio from VA threw Gallipolis Ohio. There are hundreds of James that were Quakers in and around the County of Bedford. I thought Josiah James might be Quaker however he was not that I can find. This is how I found the marriage. The date and places match with Cynthia McGill's death certificate.
My GED.COM is uploaded on Ancestry.com but it is not complete.
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Post by innatejames on May 28, 2014 20:25:56 GMT
Thanks so much, Frances, for all of the information. Are you willing to post a few things from your box here? Do we have any James Researchers in Virginia who could look into this?
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Post by jacklyn on May 27, 2015 23:15:24 GMT
Josiah James was married to a woman named Mary. This much we are pretty sure we know.
Some have said her maiden name was McPherson based on her son Daniel's middle name. I don't know if McPherson was just a good guess or whether there is other evidence to back it up. Others have said that her maiden name was McCann. Cynthia James death record shows her father was Josiah James and her mother was Mary McCann. The third possibility is that Josiah had more than one wife whose maiden name may have been neither McPherson or McCann. Opinions? Any one have any more information to add?
Name: Cynthia Mcgill Titles and Terms: Event Type: Death Event Date: 06 Sep 1913 Event Place: Washington, Scioto, Ohio Residence Place: Address: Gender: Female Age: 94 Marital Status: Widowed Race: white Occupation: HouseKeeper Birth Date: 15 Jan 1819 Birthplace: VA. Birth Year (Estimated): 1819 Burial Date: 08 Sep 1913 Burial Place: Portsmouth, O. Cemetery: Father's Name: Josiah James Father's Titles and Terms: Father's Birthplace: Va. Mother's Name: Mary Mccann Mother's Titles and Terms: Mother's Birthplace: VA. Spouse's Name: Spouse's Titles and Terms: File Number: fn 54734 GS Film number: 1953759 Digital Folder Number: 004021301 Image Number: 00269
Citing this Record: "Ohio, Deaths, 1908-1953," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8XC-Y24 : accessed 18 Apr 2014), Cynthia Mcgill, 06 Sep 1913; citing Washington, Scioto, Ohio, reference fn 54734; FHL microfilm 1953759.
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Post by jacklyn on May 27, 2015 23:27:05 GMT
Hi all, I descend from Andrew Jackson James b 1854 ( my great grandfather) son of Josiah and Olivia. Hi to Fran and Cathy, do you have anything new, I have only what we've shared in the past. Have any James men taken the dna test yet. I paid for my nephew to take it a few years ago but I don't really understand all of it. There are several matches to us in the group though. I think it possibly shows on there that our origins are from England and maybe Scotland but I need someone to explain things to me. I really kind of stopped doing anything for awhile but think I will try checking out these things. thanks Jacklyn (James) Decker
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Post by Betty J Campbell on Dec 5, 2015 17:14:11 GMT
Dear Cat, Elizabeth James is Elizabeth Boggs,not Biggs and it is her 2nd marriage, she was first married to a William Farmer. She is daughter of Daniel & Ruth James. They are my great great grandparents through their son Daniel James younger brother of Elizabeth. My dna suggest related to Josiah and Olivia. It is possible that Josiah was the cousin and Oivia the sister
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Post by cat on Dec 5, 2015 19:57:06 GMT
Hi Betty! Biggs was a typo, it is Boggs. We need to get the DNA information organized somehow. I haven't been on the forum in a long time because it seemed no one was posting. So, welcome! Maybe we can get the ball rolling again.
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Post by innatejames on Dec 7, 2015 21:19:41 GMT
Hi again, all! In regard to Jacklyn's question above about James men getting a DNA test, I am a James and I have taken the DNA test. My GEDmatch.com ID is A958344. My Ancestry ID is the same as my name here: Innatejames. Is there anything else I can share that will help you savvy DNA researchers out there?
Not sure I've shared my james line, I am the 2nd great-grandson of Josiah and Olivia James: Ralph Robert > Ralph Edgar > Noah Daniel > Josiah.
Nate
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Post by innatejames on Dec 7, 2015 22:01:02 GMT
Attached is Cynthia's death certificate. It is available for viewing now on Family Search. The informant was John W Hall Supt. Do we know who he was? source: "Ohio Deaths, 1908-1953," database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:X8XC-Y24 : accessed 7 December 2015), Cynthia Mcgill, 06 Sep 1913; citing Washington, Scioto, Ohio, reference fn 54734; FHL microfilm 1,953,759. Attachments:
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